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[WIP] Zombie Immersion Pack, Attempting to make each zombie unique...| Rifter |
Posted: May 12, 2005 02:08 am
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 Just another Survivor  Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: December 17, 2004  |
Alright, I'm not 100% certain as to how the zombie AI works, however I'm fairly sure that their movement is based off of the animations and not necessarily the code. Hoping that this works, I'm trying to make each zombie somewhat unique through their animations. These will obviously only work correctly if the server is using the models, not the clients. Clients will want to have them because a) I'll try to make them look cool
 correct hitboxes, if the server has these models and the client does not, they won't neccessarily be able to hit the zombies.I'm also making these to up the difficulty of the game a bit. Right now with Brain Bread, all the zombies are essentially the same height so its very possible to hose down a group of them generally aiming towards the head and kill around 3. The animations I provide the models will have each zombie in a somewhat unique position so it actually takes careful aim to achieve a headshot. Also, a few of the zombies will be faster (some much faster) than the normal rate of movement. At least one will have a fairly irregular movement pattern so it will be neigh impossible to score an aimed headshot easily. Note: This is just an animation change, I'm no modeller so I'll be using the default models for this. Anyway, onto the concepts: Leaper: The leaper will move along on all fours so its entire body is very close to the ground. Despite moving on all fours, leapers will be one of the faster(est) zombies in the pack. They move kind of like frogs, only quickly and rarely pausing. Leaper Idle Twitchin' Bitch: The name my friends gave to the nurses from Silent Hill. Essentially stealing the idea from that. Zombies that twitch a lot while moving. They'll basically move at the same rate as the zombies now. No preview yet. Limper: This guy will move fairly erratically randomly limping about. Speed will be faster than the current zombies, but not too much faster. Their speed will vary every few steps as well due to limping and lunging. No preview yet. Thats it for now, I'll be brainstorming different zombie ideas this week or so. I'll be working on this in tandem with the player model animations. This post has been edited by Rifter on May 12, 2005 02:10 am |
 
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| CoolDude |
Posted: May 12, 2005 02:19 pm
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 Last hope of Mankind Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: December 05, 2004 |
Wow, this is going to take a lot of work I imagine. This sounds like a very great idea. But anyways, I love the animation of the leaper idle. It's a very neat idea. Can't wait to see the rest of the animations. Good luck and good work. When you get all of these finished, I hope every server uses them. We really do need new zombies. It gets really boring with the zombies walking on both of their feet going at a slow pace. It gets way to easy. But with these new zombies, it will be a lot funner and a lot harder. I can't wait.
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| Ğ @ b ® Ī ë Ł / |
Posted: May 12, 2005 04:44 pm
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 Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 196 Joined: April 20, 2005 |
omg. if you make those. im going to love you for ever. even your avatar....
 but then i thought. you can only make three now cuz there are only three slots avaible. but before at 1.1 there were 5 zombie slots. so why not take that back and then you could make more. (of course i understand that its a hard work but still. there would be cooler that way.  anyhow. keep up the great work , but chill sometimes  This post has been edited by Ğ @ b ® Ī ë Ł // on May 12, 2005 04:58 pm |
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| Dragontail |
Posted: May 12, 2005 05:45 pm
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 Experienced Killer Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: March 27, 2005 |
Very ambitious. I like your ideas.
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| _CiviliaN^SoldieR_ |
Posted: May 12, 2005 05:47 pm
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 civilized d00d Group: Moderators Posts: 3250 Joined: November 01, 2004 |
Incredible!
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| Blue Summer |
Posted: May 12, 2005 06:11 pm
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Would you like to join Braindead source? www.freewebs.com/darknessglams We could use an animator with your talent. -------------------- This is what Ive said for the past couple months every time has requested source: BB source is highly unlikely because the mod team (Ironoak) has decided to use the crystal engine to create an rpg, although they have said there is a small chance of going to source but please, for the sake of all mankind, do not request a port and/or create polls, or even useless threads about the porting of BB, because it is most likely not going to happen, thank you for reading.
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| Rifter |
Posted: May 12, 2005 08:51 pm
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Just another Survivor Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: December 17, 2004 |
Civ- I've essentially taught myself all I know, I've gone over a few basic tutorials (mostly the ones that ship with 3dsmax), what you've seen from me so far is pretty much a culmination of a bit over a year's worth of work.
Blue- Maybe if you remind me in a month or so, I'm currently working over at The Opera R2 and I'm sorely behind my work over there. I'd still love to help out though so just... remind me. Zombie combat is probably some of the more unique work I've done (thats why I jumped from the human animations over to the zombies mid-stream), and is maddeningly fun to toy around with. Newish concept: Tunneler: You guessed it, this guy would tunnel under the ground. Granted, there wouldn't be any fantastic particle effects of the guy going under but he'd still pretend to dig. After going under he'd pop up once in a while and do little to nothing for a bit then dig again. Its corny, so I doubt I'll use this. |
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| Blue Summer |
Posted: May 12, 2005 09:11 pm
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OT: Sure i'll remidn you thin .Tunneler, sounds good. Is this for a perticular mod? -------------------- This is what Ive said for the past couple months every time has requested source: BB source is highly unlikely because the mod team (Ironoak) has decided to use the crystal engine to create an rpg, although they have said there is a small chance of going to source but please, for the sake of all mankind, do not request a port and/or create polls, or even useless threads about the porting of BB, because it is most likely not going to happen, thank you for reading.
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| **[STARS]**BrasileiroSk8r |
Posted: May 13, 2005 12:41 am
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 Uberzernichter Group: Members Posts: 897 Joined: March 18, 2005 |
I kno this is probably adding too much wrk for u but mayb u could redesign the animation for wen a zombie attacks u? Cause all they do is hit u wit their arms, mayb u could hav them do some sort of attack wit their mouth or they could grab and munch on u and u hav to break free. Idk, just a suggestion.
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| Rifter |
Posted: May 13, 2005 04:37 am
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Just another Survivor Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: December 17, 2004 |
If I remember correctly, this one . |
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| Gneralas |
Posted: May 13, 2005 07:41 am
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 Last hope of Mankind Group: Members Posts: 680 Joined: January 15, 2005 |
The idea of releasing a pack like this is very smart or crazy, however you look at it, but i will back you 100%!
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| Lord Scottish |
Posted: May 13, 2005 09:13 am
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 K.I.T.T.-Killer!  Group: IronOak Leaders Posts: 1337 Joined: August 13, 2002 |
@Rifter: You are right, we used the HL AI system with tag in the qc file deciding which animations are used for which part of the AI. You can even activate new AI parts just by adding an animation and the additional tag. Check the SDK of hl for additional information concerning the qc file AI tags.
Running zombies for example wouldn't be any problem at all: just make a runanimation, make sure to add the qc stuff right and they will run if you add them to the server Oh and it sounds like a great idea! This post has been edited by Lord Scottish on May 13, 2005 09:14 am --------------------  "Aber in wirklichkeit ist Kunst eine Insidersprache für kultivierte Snobs, um sich zu ihrer Überlegenheit über den Rest der Welt zu beglückwünschen" Calvin, 6 Scottishs website |
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| Radman |
Posted: May 13, 2005 11:37 am
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 Real zombie Nemesis Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: January 13, 2005 |
NO!
Not the 'Twitchin' Bitch' ::Cries:: I was messed up enough thanks to silent hill! hehehe great idea though, cant wait. -------------------- When theres no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth...
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| Ğ @ b ® Ī ë Ł / |
Posted: May 13, 2005 01:37 pm
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Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 196 Joined: April 20, 2005 |
but then i thought. you can only make three now cuz there are only three slots avaible. but before at 1.1 there were 5 zombie slots. so why not take that back and then you could make more. (of course i understand that its a hard work but still. there would be cooler that way.
anyhow. keep up the great work , but chill sometimes (and yes i wrote it up there too.) |
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| Skullky |
Posted: May 13, 2005 02:13 pm
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 Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: February 04, 2005 |
Gabriel there are sub models and skins allowed in .mdls
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